Henny Youngman joke :
- The patient says, "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." "Then don't do that!"
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Henny Youngman joke :
- The patient says, "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." "Then don't do that!"
i was appointed as a regular pioneer in a certain congregation.
in that congregation, a very obese male pioneer seduced a nice looking married pioneer sister who had two teenage sons.
her husband was a ms. both were df'd.
After 40 years in ( baptized 1977), I witnessed all the drama, backstabbing, rumors, divorces, cheating, a physical fight inside the Kingdom Hall, spankings of small children where no one said a word, members who would change congregations due to conflicts with Elders, heated words on the podium from one Elder to another Elder, spousal abuse, disfellowshipping, brothers who were contractors who were shady even to fellow members, Elders who favored family when it came down to appointments for Ministerial Servants and new Elders, loans that were never paid to fellow members where Elders had to step in, Elder wives knowing everything that was happening in the congregation, members who took and sold drugs, and alcoholics.
david splane’s talk “put up a hard fight for the faith” was that last talk presented on the saturday of the annual convention.
this talk was to largely address apostates and restated ideas and arguments often presented before.
however, this year, watchtower is spending more time in disqualifying negative findings originating from secular courts and here is the segment of interest here: .
Here is David Splane is using the Governing Bodies typical ''weasel words'' to hide the truth about the organization.
persecution, Satan, apostates, the negative media, opposers, weak in the faith
"Actually, neither side probably wants the whole truth to come out in court."
Mr. Splane: You may not want the whole truth to come out, but by the mere fact the Society is settling out of court lawsuits, shows that the Society really fears the court system and the jury duty system you put down.
the watchtower—study edition | september 2021. study article 39. when a loved one leaves jehovah.
2 think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!
(jude 6) and imagine how hurt he was at seeing his beloved people, the israelites, rebel against him time and again.
12 By supporting the elders’ decision to disfellowship your loved one, you may actually help him to return to Jehovah. “Severing family association with our adult son was extremely difficult,” admits Elizabeth, quoted earlier. “But after he returned to Jehovah, he admitted that he deserved to be disfellowshipped. In time, he expressed appreciation for the lessons he learned. I came to value Jehovah’s discipline,” she says. Her husband, Mark, adds: “Much later, our son told me that he wanted to come back in part because we did exactly what we had to do. I’m so glad Jehovah helped us to be obedient.”
My cousin was disfellowshipped over 24 years ago when he was 20 years old. He is not welcome to any family functions. He has two young children ( a 3 year old and a one year old) who have not seen their grandfather ( an elder ). His father refuses to see his grandkids and his son. His father told that him that he cannot have any association with him '' until you come back to Jehovah.''
My cousin told me that he will never go back. He said, "Why would I go back after being treated like this?''
When my cousin's one year old was born, my cousin's father sent him a baby gift with a congratulations card. It was only addressed to his wife and grandkids. He didn't even have the decency to put his son's name on the card.
the watchtower—study edition | september 2021. study article 39. when a loved one leaves jehovah.
2 think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!
(jude 6) and imagine how hurt he was at seeing his beloved people, the israelites, rebel against him time and again.
The person leaving the Organization is in this way portrayed as someone cruel, who can leave his wife and children. The horror it puts in the hearts of JW wives and children: If daddy leaves Jehovah, he will leave us too.
6 At times, a parent abandons the truth and even the family. (Ps. 27:10) This can be devastating for children who had looked up to the parent as a role model. Esther, whose father was disfellowshipped, says: “I cried often because I realized that he was not just drifting away from the truth. He was making a deliberate choice to leave Jehovah altogether. I love my father, so when he was disfellowshipped, I constantly worried about his well-being. I even had panic attacks.”
the watchtower—study edition | september 2021. study article 39. when a loved one leaves jehovah.
2 think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!
(jude 6) and imagine how hurt he was at seeing his beloved people, the israelites, rebel against him time and again.
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That was an excellent post!
Let's reread paragraph 5 and see what is cleverly written and what is really forced on the parents:
5 We need to remember that Jehovah has given each of us the gift of free will. This means that we can choose whether we will obey him or not. Some young ones whose upbringing was far from ideal choose to serve Jehovah, and they make a success of their service. Others whose parents did their very best to bring them up in harmony with Scriptural principles turn their back on the truth once they get older. In the final analysis, we must personally decide whether we will serve Jehovah. (Josh. 24:15) So, grieving parents, fight the tendency to think that this tragedy must be your fault!
Jehovah's Witness parents have a baby. Their young children are made to go to meetings, assemblies, conventions and field service. They are indoctrinated to the point of being ''baptized.'' Now, the child has entered into a ''contract'' with the Watchtower Society. The contract with the Society is now binding until death.
The Watchtower Society now takes over the parents job when it comes to discipline. The Society can ''mark,'' ''reprove'' and ''disfellowship'' a young child that is not exemplary.. Now, this young child faces shunning the rest of their lives if they never return to the meetings.
Where is this so-called gift of ''free will?''
the watchtower—study edition | september 2021. study article 39. when a loved one leaves jehovah.
2 think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!
(jude 6) and imagine how hurt he was at seeing his beloved people, the israelites, rebel against him time and again.
The Watchtower—Study Edition | September 2021
STUDY ARTICLE 39
2 Think how heartbroken Jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him! (Jude 6) And imagine how hurt he was at seeing his beloved people, the Israelites, rebel against him time and again. (Read Psalm 78:40, 41.) Be assured that our loving heavenly Father is also hurt when someone you love leaves him. He understands the grief you are experiencing. He will compassionately provide you with the encouragement and the support you need.
5 We need to remember that Jehovah has given each of us the gift of free will. This means that we can choose whether we will obey him or not. Some young ones whose upbringing was far from ideal choose to serve Jehovah, and they make a success of their service. Others whose parents did their very best to bring them up in harmony with Scriptural principles turn their back on the truth once they get older. In the final analysis, we must personally decide whether we will serve Jehovah. (Josh. 24:15) So, grieving parents, fight the tendency to think that this tragedy must be your fault!
Supposedly, Jehovah gave everyone a gift of free will. We all are given a choice to obey and serve Jehovah. Angels, the Israelites and billions of humans have decided to not serve or obey Jehovah.
How does God become ''heartbroken'' when... ''In the final analysis, we must personally decide whether we will serve Jehovah.''
Why isn't God more heartbroken when babies die at birth, people die of starvation and cancer? If you have free will, why should you be punished if you choose not to serve Jehovah? THAT IS NOT FREE WILL!
another implausible field service story told by ralph walls at the 2021 convention.
get ready for this unrealistic, stupid, dull and boring, made up fiction that is presented at this assembly.. some years ago ( tells a story but doesn't know exact date ), a brother ( doesn't give his name ) in mexico ( doesn't name the town) from the rurals, dressed in a very simple garb ( to show he was not showy ) knocked at the door of a palatial mansion.
( a very rich ''worldly'' person must live here ).
''Some years ago, a brother in Mexico from the rurals, dressed in a very simple garb knocked at the door of a palatial mansion.''
another implausible field service story told by ralph walls at the 2021 convention.
get ready for this unrealistic, stupid, dull and boring, made up fiction that is presented at this assembly.. some years ago ( tells a story but doesn't know exact date ), a brother ( doesn't give his name ) in mexico ( doesn't name the town) from the rurals, dressed in a very simple garb ( to show he was not showy ) knocked at the door of a palatial mansion.
( a very rich ''worldly'' person must live here ).
imho this story aka experience was published in the watchtower decades ago...
The House-to-House Challenge
Challenge though it is, the house-to-house activity is not above the capabilities of even the most humble Christian. Thus, once a Mexican Witness from the rurals, dressed in very simple country garb, knocked at the door of a palatial mansion. A man in a silken bathrobe responded and asked what he wanted. The Witness said: “If a mule should come to your door with two bags of gold, would you accept it?” Annoyed, the householder replied: “I do not understand what you are telling me. I am a famous engineer.” The Witness then asked him: “What do you understand about prophecies?” The man admitted he did not know anything about them. Then the Witness said: “That is what I want to speak to you about. . . . I am that mule that came to your door, and the two bags of gold are these magazines, The Watchtower and Awake!” The man was impressed by the presentation of this humble Witness and took the two magazines. All of this calls to mind the incident recorded at Acts 4:8-13.
another implausible field service story told by ralph walls at the 2021 convention.
get ready for this unrealistic, stupid, dull and boring, made up fiction that is presented at this assembly.. some years ago ( tells a story but doesn't know exact date ), a brother ( doesn't give his name ) in mexico ( doesn't name the town) from the rurals, dressed in a very simple garb ( to show he was not showy ) knocked at the door of a palatial mansion.
( a very rich ''worldly'' person must live here ).
Another implausible field service story told by Ralph Walls at the 2021 Convention. Get ready for this unrealistic, stupid, dull and boring, made up fiction that is presented at this Assembly.
Some years ago ( tells a story but doesn't know exact date ), a brother ( doesn't give his name ) in Mexico ( doesn't name the town) from the rurals, dressed in a very simple garb ( to show he was not showy ) knocked at the door of a palatial mansion. ( a very rich ''worldly'' person must live here )
A man in a silken robe ( yes! he must be rich and showy ) responded and asked what he wanted. The Witness said, ''If a mule should come to your door with two bags of gold, would you accept it?'' Annoyed, the householder replied, '' I do not understand what you're telling me. I am a famous engineer.'' ( no one would would ever say that to a stranger)
The Witness then asked him, ''What do you understand about prophecies?'' The man admitted he did not know anything about them. ( he is ''materially'' rich, but ''spiritually'' poor ) The Witness said , ''This is what I want to talk speak to you about.''
'' I am that mule that came to your door. And, the two bags of gold are these magazines...the Watchtower and the Awake.'' ( fake gold that even Jehovah's Witnesses discard )
The man was impressed by the presentation of this humble Witness and took the two magazines. ( I'll bet he didn't take the magazines, even if this implausible story was true!)